Guo Dong on the pessimism and resignation of Chinese poker community

Last May, Somuchpoker ran a story on the ban of online Texas Hold’em apps in China. Since then, the general state of poker in the country seems to have gotten bleaker. At the currently ongoing WPT Korea, we had a chance to chat with one of China’s top live tournament players, Guo Dong. Dong was representing Team China at the Teams Event side by side three other highly decorated players from the country.

Dong shared with us his sadness and pessimism at the current situation of the sport he loves.

Don Guo
Dong Guo

The ban and its consequences

It is evident that the ban instantly changed the poker landscape in China for the worst. Ourgame and WPT paused all operations ending the six-year run of WPT Sanya. Many local tournaments have been cancelled. And just last week, the Tencent Poker application shut down led to the cancellation of 2018 WSOP China. Sponsored players such as Dong took a direct hit as it made it much harder for them to travel to play.

Dong said, “There are no more players sponsored. Now we have less and less live tournaments. The two big ones are gone. There are smaller ones running but I don’t know how long they will last.”

Personally for Guo Dong

For Dong, being unable to represent his country and wave the Chinese flag in honor has made him very unmotivated to play.

“To tell the truth, after this announcement from the government I was so disappointed. Before that I felt I was fighting for honor, that I would be able to wave the Chinese flag if I won the WSOP, but now the government says it’s gambling so I’ve lost all motivation. I didn’t go to the WSOP nor the EPT. I only played one event in China and I went there only because they had a soccer side event. I don’t care anymore because I don’t play tournaments for money. I’m an investor, I have my business and poker to me is just a hobby.”

Despite his frustration and diminishing drive, Dong still feels he has a responsibility to the Chinese poker community as well as to himself. Attending the WPT Korea Teams Event along with his friends – Yang Zhang, Xixiang Luo, and WSOP bracelet winner Wei Guo Liang, it gave them something to fight for together. With the team format showcasing poker as a sport, it was a great motivator for each of them.

Dong says, “I’m still trying to find a way to improve the situation, to promote the game as a sport. I may have lost interest in tournaments but I am still interested in making the game better.”

*At the time of writing, Dong just brought Team China to victory.

Team China Victory
Team China – Photo WPT

Dealing with authorities

Unlike in Australia where players lobbied for online poker and were given a chance to submit testimonials on their plea, in China it was very much the opposite. Players neither had chance to engage in a discussion with the authorities nor were they able to lobby for the game.

“We don’t know which department in the government we should talk to. Nobody talks to us. Government may talk to big companies, but even big companies might not be able to talk about it. You don’t have a chance to explain, and nobody listens. It’s true the gambling problem exists, so the government wants to shut it down as there are some who lose a lot of money.”

Until today, it is still unclear how the decision to ban online poker apps was reached. However, the answer to that question may already be moot. With the unwavering stance of the government, it is becoming increasingly difficult to be invested in the game under these conditions. This applies for both players and big companies. While the gambling problem persists, it will continue to be difficult for poker to exist without scrutiny.

The wrong answer to a real problem

There’s a saying, “when there’s a will, there’s a way”. China may be cracking down but for the rest of Asia, the live tournament scene flourishes. For die-hard Chinese tournament players, attending these events do fill a void.

“Japan Open invited me twice to play in their tournaments. Japan is a bit similar to China, they don’t allow gambling so their tournaments have almost no buy-in, and the prizepool is tiny, only the top 3 get a Red Dragon package or something like that. Still, many players go because they love the game”, Dong said.

However for some, it is too costly to travel just to play. Live tournaments are expensive. They are nowhere near as cheap and as convenient as playing online. This results in players going underground, playing online on banned platforms where private games can be organized. Most of these platforms operate well but the stakes are much higher. In turn, the chances of losing are equally up there not just monetarily but for the image of the game as well.

“After the Tencent Poker app shut down many players asked me where they can play, I told them you can still play live games, but they said they don’t have that much money, they only wanted to have fun, playing small games or even free games, which Tencent used to offer. I feel very sad because I don’t know how to reply them. I know tournament poker isn’t gambling but many people don’t know that. There’s gambling area eg. cash games, but how to educate young players, how to make them play better, become better? I think this game taught me a lot in many ways, how to be an example for young players. For me it’s just a game”.

With the loss of the Tencent Poker app, which in Dong’s view had one of the most healthy approaches to poker with their wide range of small games, Chinese online players are pushed to platforms potentially way more harmful for them.

The future of poker in China

While there doesn’t seem to be any signs of this crackdown easing up, players have resigned from being optimistic, at least for the short run. As for the future, there is always a possibility for change.

“Ten years from now I think it’s long enough to change something, peoples opinions will be more open, I believe so. They will find out that it’s not a bad game, it’s not gambling. You can gamble on anything so how can you stop people from that. I really like the game and I hope people can see it the way I do. In 10 years I would love to believe that will happen. But maybe winning WSOP Main event is even easier”, Dong laughed.

Article by Tricia David

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Louis Hartwell

Graduated in Media Communication at the University of Lausanne, Louis Hartman is a co-founder of He began his career in Cambodia as freelance journalist. In same time he was making his living by playing poker every night at that time. Intense learner, he read dozens of poker strategy books to improve his skills during many years. With a strong interest about poker "behind the scene" in Asia and his communication skills, Louis launched Somuchpoker in 2014.

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